Former President Donald Trump did not back down an inch from the personal and degrading taunts directed at his rape accuser E. Jean Carroll in a freewheeling deposition last October, which a federal judge partially unsealed for the first time late on Friday.
“I know nothing about her,” Trump said of Carroll. “I think she’s sick, mentally sick.”
Calling the famed columnist a “nut job,” Trump also doubled down on the same rape denials that inspired Carroll’s defamation suit, saying once again she’s “not my type.”
“I will tell you I made that statement, and I said, while it’s politically incorrect, she’s not my type,” Trump said. “And that’s 100 percent true. She’s not my type.”
At the time, Trump was being questioned by Carroll’s attorney Roberta Kaplan, who has faced off against the former president on behalf of multiple clients. She also represented niece Mary Trump and plaintiffs who sued Trump and his family for allegedly promoting a pyramid scheme on Celebrity Apprentice.
“You’re a political operative also,” Trump told Carroll’s lawyer. “You’re a disgrace”
Trump’s attorney Alina Habba had fought to keep the deposition under wraps, until U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan (no relation) rejected the sealing request on Friday afternoon.
“A Nicer Word Than the Word That Starts with an F”
In trying to fend off one of this lawsuit, Trump’s lawyers have argued that he’s immune from defamation suits for any statements he made in office, but he made similar remarks in a missive posted on his platform Truth Social long after his presidency.
“I don’t know this woman, have no idea who she is, other than it seems she got a picture of me many years ago, with her husband, shaking my hand on a reception line at a celebrity charity event. She completely made up a story that I met her at the doors of this crowded New York City Department Store and, within minutes, ‘swooned’ her,” Trump wrote.
In the deposition, Trump spelled out the euphemism.
“That would be a word, maybe accurate or not, having do with talking to her and talking her — to do an act that she said happened, which didn’t happen. And it’s a nicer word than the word that starts with an F, and this would be a word that I used because I thought it would be inappropriate to use the other word,” he said. “And it didn’t happen.”
When Carroll’s lawyer pressed whether he meant “sexual intercourse,” Trump replied: “Yeah. That’s because that’s what she said.”
The full deposition has not yet been unsealed, but the portion made public was attached as an exhibit to one of Carroll’s filings.
Read the deposition excerpt below:
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